Splošna debata o TV programih

[mikrohard]

Exactly... ponudnik Sportklubov (in drugih trash programov, ki so v paketu) zahteva plačilo na podlagi števila vseh IPTV naročnikov, kar je zelo podobno kot da bi zahtevali umestitev v osnovno programsko shemo (čak mal... to me spominja malo na Pro Plus... kdo je že kupil oz. namerava kupiti Pro Plus??). Skratka... to, kar se dogaja zadnja leta na slovenskem TV področju ni nič drugega kot izsiljevanje na podlagi monopolnega položaja (pri športnih prenosih in najbolj gledanem sranju). In dokler se bodo operaterji pustili izsiljevati (oz. dokler bodo še lahko brez prevelikega osipa strošek valili na uporabnike) oz. dokler bo država še dopuščala tako dogajanje in ne bo začela z regulacijo trga na tem področju... do takrat se bo sranje samo nadaljevalo.

Moji predlogi:
1.) Definirati medijsko/programsko hišo s pomembnim tržnim deležem
2.) Postaviti posebne pogoje za take medijske hiše (določitev maksimalne dopustne cene, programi na voljo vsem operaterjem pod istimi pogoji, itd)
3.) Ob enostranski podražitvi s strani operaterja lahko uporabnik odstopi od pogodbe brez potrebe po vračanju prejete ugodnosti
4.) Itd itd...

To, da pa obstaja kakršnakoli možnost, da je zastopnik/lastnik TV programov kakorkoli lastniško povezan s katerimkoli izmed operaterjev je pa sploh "bedarija brez primere". Tudi to bi bilo potrebno regulirati in določiti maksimalno ceno distribucije, ki bi nekako pokrila stroške (podobno kot je reguliran nacionalni roaming v mobilnih omrežjih).

[MrTwelveTrees]

Vse se vrti okoli denarja....

[Lorem Ipsum]

ima MTV European podnapise?

MTV Europe - udp://@239.12.1.192:5000 & MTV Adria - udp://@239.11.1.102:5000 sta identična (po moje), MTV Adria je s podnapisi.

[morosito]

kako je lepo ziveti ob italjanski meji in poznat italjansko kulturo, jezik, itd....prednost imamo ker gledamo open air free programe, kakih 100 od rai, mediaset, paramount, sony...od tega ogromno hd. po želji pa tudi cam kartice 4k tivusat za malo denarja ob nakupu 4k tv....

seznam programov dvb-t2
1 RAI 1
2 RAI 2
3 RAI 3
4 RETE 4
5 CANALE 5
6 ITALIA 1
7 LA7
8 MTV
9 DEEJAY TV
10 Emittente locale
11 Emittente locale
12 Emittente locale
13 Emittente locale
14 Emittente locale
15 Emittente locale
16 Emittente locale
17 Emittente locale
18 Emittente locale
19 Emittente locale
20 RETE CAPRI
21 RAI 4
22 IRIS
23 RAI 5
24 RAI MOVIE
25 RAI PREMIUM
26 CIELO
27 CLASS NEWS msnbc
28 TV 2000
29 LA7D
30 La5
31 REAL TIME
32 QVC
34 MEDIASET EXTRA
35 ME
36 RTL 102.5 TV
37 HSE24
40 BOING
41 K2
42 RAI GULP
43 RAI YOYO
44 FRISBEE
48 RAI NEWS
49 COMING SOON
50 REPUBBLICA TV
51 TG MEDIASET
52 DMAX
54 RAI STORIA
56 FOCUS (Documentari)
57 RAI SPORT 1
58 RAI SPORT 2
59 POKER ITALIA 24
60 SPORT ITALIA
61 SPORT ITALIA 2
62 SPORT ITALIA 24
66 RADIO CAPRI TELEVISION
67 MTV MUSIC
68 PLAYME
69 VIRGINRADIO TV
70 RADIO ITALIA TV
101 RAI 1 TEST
102 RAI 2 TEST
103 RAI 3 TEST
104 RETE4 +1
105 CANALE 5 +1
106 ITALIA 1 +1
107 LA7
108 MTV
109 DEEJAY TV +2
120 NEKO TV
122 CAPRI STORE
180 SUPERTENNIS
222 NUVOLARI
229 LA7 D
267 MTV MUSIC
300 PREMIUM MENU
310 PREMIUM NET TV in conflitto con PREMIUM NET TV HD (Aree di switch off)
311 PREMIUM CINEMA
312 PREMIUM CINEMA EMOTION
313 PREMIUM CINEMA ENERGY
314 STUDIO UNIVERSAL
320 PREMIUM CINEMA HD
321 JOI – PREMIUM
322 MYA – PREMIUM
323 STEEL – PREMIUM
324 JOI +1 – PREMIUM
325 MYA +1 – PREMIUM
326 STEEL +1 – PREMIUM
341 DISCOVERY WORLD
342 BBC KNOWLEDGE
350 DISNEY – PREMIUM
351 DISNEY +1 – PREMIUM
352 PLAYHOUSE DISNEY -PREMIUM
353 CARTOON NETWORK -PREMIUM
354 HIRO -PREMIUM
355 DISNEY +1 – PREMIUM
370 PREMIUM CALCIO
371 PREMIUM CALCIO 1
372 PREMIUM CALCIO 2
373 PREMIUM CALCIO 3
374 PREMIUM CALCIO 4
375 PREMIUM CALCIO 5
376 PREMIUM CALCIO 6
377 PREMIUM SERIE B 1
378 PREMIUM SERIE B 2
379 PREMIUM SERIE B 3
381 PREMIUM CALCIO HD 1
382 PREMIUM CALCIO HD 2
390 MOTO GP
444 GLAMOUR PLUS
455 NITEGATE ATTIVAZIONE
456 SEXO EXCLUSIVE
457 SE*O EXOTICA
458 SE*O AMATO****
459 SE*O TRANGRESSION
501 RAI HD
505 CANALE 5 HD
506 ITALIA 1 HD
507 LA 7 HD
508 MTV
529 LA 7 TEST 3D
567 MTV MUSIC
800 LA 7 TEST MOSAICO
807 La7 On Demand
808 MTV On Demand
829 La7D On Demand
867 MTV MUSIC On Demand
888 Più Servizi
907 La7 News On Demand
908 MTV News On Demand
929 La7 servizi On Demand
967 MTV Music On Demand
988 SERVIZI TELECOM
999 CUBOVISION

seznam cam tivusat hd dvb-s2

1 Rai 1 HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
2 Rai 2 HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
3 Rai 3 HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
4 Rete 4 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
5 Canale 5 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
6 Italia 1 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
7 LA7 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
8 TV8 [11881 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
9 Nove HD [10853 H 29900 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
10 Rai 4 HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
11 Iris [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
12 La 5 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
13 Rai 5 HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
14 Rai Movie HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
15 Rai Premium HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
16 Mediaset ITALIA DUE [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
17 Mediaset EXTRA [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
18 TV2000 [12034 V 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13B]
19 cielo [12034 V 29900 5/6 - HB 13B]
20 Rai News 24 HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
21 Rai Sport + HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
23 Rai Storia HD [11765 V 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - Rai - HB 13C]
24 TgCom24 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
25 VH1 [11541 V 22000 5/6 - HB 13B]
26 Spike [11541 V 22000 5/6 - HB 13B]
27 Paramount Channel [11541 V 22000 5/6 - HB 13B]
28 DMAX [12616 H 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13C]
29 LA7d [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
30 SUPERTENNIS HD [12475 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast DVB-S2 - HB 13B]
31 Real Time [11862 H 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13B]
32 QVC HD (SAT) [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
33 Rai Scuola HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
34 RADIOFRECCIA HD [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
35 Radio Italia Tv HD [11662 V 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
36 RTL 102.5 TV HD [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
37 HSE24 HD (SAT) [10930 H 30000 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
38 GIALLO [11881 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
39 Topcrime [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
40 Boing [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
41 Cartoonito [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
42 Rai Gulp HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
43 Rai YoYo HD [11013 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
45 POP Italy [11541 V 22000 5/6 - HB 13B]
47 Super! [12635 V 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13C]
48 Arte HD [11681 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
49 MEZZO* [11623 V 27500 3/4 GLOBECAST - HB 13E]
50 Proposte d'investimento [10853 H 29900 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
51 Alice [11727 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
53 WINGA TV (LeoVegas TV) [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
55 Class HorseTv [12635 V 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13C]
56 Focus [11881 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
57 CGTN Documentary [11585 V 27500 5/6 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
58 Fashion TV [12092 H 29900 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13B]
59 Euronews Italian [12475 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast DVB-S2 - HB 13B]
60 Euronews English HD [11565 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast - HB 13B]
61 BBC World News [12596 V 27500 3/4 Globecast - HB 13E]
62 CGTN [11585 V 27500 5/6 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
63 France 24 HD (en Francais) [11565 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast - HB 13B]
64 France 24 HD (in English) [11565 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast - HB 13B]
65 Bloomberg European TV [11137 H 27500 3/4 Arqiva - HB 13E]
66 Al Jazeera [12111 V 27500 3/4 Telespazio - HB 13C]
67 Al Jazeera English HD [11137 H 27500 3/4 Arqiva - HB 13E]
68 TRT World HD [11565 H 29900 3/4 GlobeCast DVB-S2 - HB 13B]
69 TV5MONDE EUROPE [11137 H 27500 3/4 Arqiva - HB 13E]
70 DW (English) [11054 H 27500 5/6 MEDIA BROADCAST - HB 13B]
71 NHK World [11137 H 27500 3/4 Arqiva - HB 13E]
72 CNBC PE Hot [10949 V 27500 3/4 GlobeCast - HB 13B]
73 SMTv San Marino [12149 V 27500 3/4 EUTELSAT - HB 13B]
74 TV K-C [12520 V 27500 5/6 STN Ltd - HB 13E]
75 Sonlife [11334 H 27500 3/4 ARQIVA LTD - HB 13C]
76 CCTV 4E [11585 V 27500 5/6 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
78 KBS World HD [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
80 Juwelo [11179 H 27500 3/4 - HB 13C]
81 i24News HD English [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
82 i24News HD French [11642 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
100 tivùlink [10992 V 27500 2/3 tivu - HB 13E]
101 Rai 1 [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
102 Rai 2 [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
103 Rai 3 [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
109 NOVE [11541 V 22000 5/6 Persidera - HB 13B]
110 Rai 4 [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
113 Rai 5 [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
114 Rai Movie [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
115 Rai Premium [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
120 Rai News 24 [10992 V 27500 2/3 RAI - HB 13E]
121 Rai Sport [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
122 Rai 3 TGR FVG [10992 V 27500 2/3 Rai - HB 13E]
123 Rai Storia [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
132 QVC (SAT) [11541 V 22000 5/6 QVC - HB 13B]
133 Rai Scuola [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
136 RTL 102.5 TV [11541 V 22000 5/6 - HB 13B]
142 Rai Gulp [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
143 Rai YoYo [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
162 CGTN [11034 V 27500 3/4 GLOBECAST - HB 13E]
167 Al Jazeera English [11137 H 27500 3/4 Arqiva - HB 13E]
176 CCTV-4 [12149 V 27500 3/4 AH-EDP - HB 13B]
200 Hot Bird 4k1 [12539 H 30000 5/6 Eutelsat DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
210 Rai 4K [12303 V 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13B]
289 FTVUHD.COM [12539 H 30000 5/6 Eutelsat - HB 13C]
420 People TV-Rete 7 [12149 V 27500 3/4 People TV-Rete 7 - HB 13B]
422 i TV Italia (iTV Italia/Telecupole) [12673 V 29900 5/6 SkyItalia - HB 13B]
445 Padre Pio Tv (HD) [11662 V 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
454 Parole di Vita [12673 V 29900 5/6 Sky Italia - HB 13B]
601 Rai Radio 1 [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
602 Rai Radio 2 [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
603 Rai Radio 3 [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
604 Rai GR Parlamento [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
605 Rai Radio Classica [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
606 Rai Radio Kids [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
607 Rai Radio Live [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
608 RDS [12111 V 27500 3/4 Telespazio - HB 13C]
609 DimSuono Roma [12111 V 27500 3/4 Telespazio - HB 13C]
610 RTL 102.5 [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
611 ZETA ITALIANA (RADIO ZETA) [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
612 RADIO FRECCIA [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
615 Radio 105 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
616 Virgin radio [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
617 Radio R101 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
618 Radio Monte Carlo [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
619 Radio Monte Carlo 2 [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
620 RADIO ITALIA s.m.i. [11541 V 22000 5/6 M-Three satcom - HB 13B]
621 M DUE O [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
622 CAPITAL [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
623 DEEJAY [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
624 Radio 24 [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
625 DISCORADIO [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
626 R.ONDA D'URTO [11541 V 22000 5/6 M-Three satcom - HB 13B]
627 ANNI 60 [12111 V 27500 3/4 Telespazio - HB 13C]
629 Radio Web Italia [12673 V 29900 5/6 Sky Italia - HB 13B]
630 Rai Radio Tutta Italiana [10992 V 27500 2/3 Rai - HB 13E]
631 Radio Number One [11958 V 27500 3/4 Sky Italia - HB 13B]
632 Radio Radio [12245 H 29900 5/6 Sky Italia - HB 13B]
633 Radio Maria [12111 V 27500 3/4 Telespazio - HB 13C]
634 RADIO MATER [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
635 popolare [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
636 Radio RBE [12149 V 27500 3/4 - HB 13B]
640 Rai Radio Techete' [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
656 RFI Francais [12380 V 27500 3/4 GlobeCast - HB 13B]
657 CAPODISTRIA [12520 V 27500 5/6 STN Ltd - HB 13E]
661 Swiss Pop [11526 H 29700 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
662 Swiss Jazz [11526 H 29700 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
663 Swiss Classica [11526 H 29700 2/3 DVB-S2 - HB 13C]
667 DW-FM02 [11054 H 27500 5/6 MEDIA BROADCAST - HB 13B]
669 DW08 [11054 H 27500 5/6 MEDIA BROADCAST - HB 13B]
670 DW09 [11054 H 27500 5/6 MEDIA BROADCAST - HB 13B]
699 Rai Isoradio [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
701 UNINETTUNO UNIVERSITY TV [11804 V 27500 3/4 Rai - HB 13C]
805 Mediaset On Demand [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]
832 TVA Vicenza [11662 V 27500 3/4 DVB-S2 - HB 13E]
899 Infinity [11919 V 29900 5/6 Mediaset - HB 13C]


prav mi ni zal za vse tiste od postojne naprej....plačajte poleg RTV prispevka se organizirani mafiji....a smesno mi je to...da se nihce ne upira...tako da...placujte sheme in trpite

[cslesce]

in 100 €mio letno pa se ne noben ne pobudi....hahah....100 mio € letno.

[wilecoyot]

morosito...že nekaj časa težiš s tem, kako lepo je tebi ob Italiji in bla bla bla jamranje glede na T2 in ostalo...tudi kako si porihtal s Fritzom boljši DL/UL.
Sej je ok, da poveš informacije...sam k s tem začenš pretiravati, pa težiš...če ti je tolk lepo ob Italiji in tolk jamraš...zakaj si ne zrihtaš italijanskega interneta. Sej majo tud LTE ponudbo itd...
Pa ti ne bo treba čez T2 jamrat. Nekateri sredi Ljubljane ali Murske Sobote, nimajo oz. nimamo možnosti preverjati tujih ponudnikov, zlasti ne italijanskih, ker niso vsi zaljubljeni v ciganarijo kot nekateri.
veliko bolj me čudijo tvoji komentarji, kjer se po eni strani hvalih kako imaš 4K TV, Apple TV, kako lepo sliko dobiš iz ne vem kje, kako imaš ne vem kere IPTV sezname...obenem pa jamraš ker bo T2 dvignu naročnino ?!?...nekako mi ne gre skupaj, ker zgleda da ti denarja ne manjka, jamrat pa znaš...dej pejt čez mejo v Italjo pa pojamri mal, mogoče ti bodo pa potegnil optiko? Nikol ne veš, dokler ne probaš nam bo pa prihranjeno tvoje nonstop primerjanje z Italijo.
lp wile

[morosito]

E fant moj jaz v italijo imam vdsl2 200/20...za 24€ na nesec..pa zastonj tv preko antene...kaj se imam za jamrat?

[slow_slow]

Prosim, če se držite teme in se ne spuščate v debate izven tega.

[wilecoyot]

se popolnoma strinjam, ker načeloma ne komentiram traparij...sam tole sm pa mogu

[bender33]

ima MTV European podnapise?

MTV Europe - udp://@239.12.1.192:5000 & MTV Adria - udp://@239.11.1.102:5000 sta identična (po moje), MTV Adria je s podnapisi.

hvala za odgovor po 2 mesecih , v tem času sem že izvedel da podnapisi so.

[Lorem Ipsum]

Prosim

[THJ]

ima MTV European podnapise?

MTV Europe - udp://@239.12.1.192:5000 & MTV Adria - udp://@239.11.1.102:5000 sta identična (po moje), MTV Adria je s podnapisi.

MTV Europe ima sedaj tudi slovenske podnapise. Kanal MTV Adria se bo v kratkem ukinil. V shemi ga ni več od 1.1.

[d_g]

Pojavil se je prek boxa program TV3 v HD varianti. Zanimivo brez časovnega zamika (niti za 3 dni). Še "visoko gledani program" Ljubljana TV HD ga ima. Le kdo odloča na T2 o tem in kaj je v ozadju ...

Lahko bi drugače T2 pri izbiri programa kako označil ali ima 7 ali 3 ali 0 dnevni časovni zamik.

[MrTwelveTrees]

Jankovič ?

Javite ko bo Tv3 HD imel časovni zamik, ...

[mikrohard]

Ne si preveč beliti glave, kaj vse je tukaj v ozadju. Stvar je verjetno bolj preprosta kot si marsikdo misli (beri: ni več prostih kapacitet... prvi pride, prvi melje).