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VDSL 2 - malo info

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 04:20
Napisal/-a Dalmatinc
Predvsem interesantno je povdarijeno; da si pogledate mal primerjave. Zadeva izgleda fuckn unbeliveble cool :)

Nimda...kdaj že to pride? :)

VDSL2, 100 MBPS over Copper Next
Written by Om Malik- Posted Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 2:12 AM

Very High Bit Rate DSL 2 (VDSL2), a new standard is likely to be ratified by next week, making it possible for carriers to provide upto 100 megabits per second connections (both up and down) over copper lines. VDSL2 standard has been under review with the International Telecommunications Union for sometime now, and the decision on the standard could come early next week.

VDSL2 is really really fast. How fast? According to Ikanos estimates, it takes an “ADSL network more than 45 minutes to transmit up to 50 high-resolution photos at 3 Mb per photo. Sending the same number of photos can take less than a minute over VDSL/VDSL2 networks.”

VDSL, though once thought of as a good solution for bringing more bandwidth to the home has lagged because of its lack of reach. It has become popular in the overseas markets because densely populated countries like China and Korea have central offices that are much closer to consumer premises. VDSL2 standard, which uses about 30 MHz of spectrum (versus 12 MHz in VDSL) allows more data to be sent at higher speeds and over longer distances. BellSouth and SBC have plans to use super-fast DSL to connect their fiber nodes to consumer homes. Qwest for instance has about 40,000 customers who are using VDSL technologies. But eventually if they want to offer true triple play with high-definition streams, they will eventually have to migrate to VDSL2 technology which can handle three HDTV streams with relative ease. (Three HD streams at the very least because at present average American home has 3.1 televisions.) Of course there is that whole issue of US homes being too far from the Central office. The good news is that VDSL2 is going to be backward compatible with ADSL, ADSL2 and VDSL.

Here is a little comparison of more recent flavors of DSL

* ADSL has speeds up to 8 Mbps downstream and 1 Mbps upstream. Can be deployed from Central office and has a range of 15,000 feet and longer.
* ADSL2+ has a maximum speed of 25 Mbps downstream and 1 Mbps upstream. Can be deployed from Central office and has a range of 15,000 feet and longer
* VDSL , some chipsets that use the optional spectrum of 30 MHz can do 100 Mbps downstream and 50 Mbps upstream. Current carriers include NTT, KDDI, Korea Telecom, and Softbank BB of Japan. Has a range of about 5,000 feet
* VDSL2 has speeds of 100 Mbps downstream and 100 Mbps upstream. Has a range of about 12000


VDSL2 is expected to be a fiercely contested market place, with early leader Ikanos like to fend off challengers like Infineon, which is expected to announce new VDSL2 chipsets at SuperComm trade show. Other players competing for the VDSL2 pie could include Broadcom, TI, and existing VDSL chip maker, Metalink. Santa Clara-based Electriphy is another recent entrant in the VDSL space.

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 07:53
Napisal/-a T2_Delavec
Ja, hvala za tale prispevek. Kakor vidimo, se bo borba za VDSL-2 šele začela. Bo pa še trajalo nekaj časa. Analitiki predvidamo, da še ene pol leta. Bo pa tudi potem še trajalo nekaj časa, da bodo ponudniki osvojili tehnologijo, te reči niso simpel. In kdo je na našem trgu najbližje poznavanju VDSL in VDSL-2 tehnologije v praksi? :)

VDSL 2

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 09:10
Napisal/-a Forenzik
Ta tehnologija deluje na nekoliko višjih frekvencah in sicer na 30 MHz. Malo me skrbi, da bodo nastajali problemi, zaradi slabih Telekomovih poveza in inštalacij po hišah (zaradi večjih frekvenc nastajajo tudi motnje v primeru, da niso telefonski vodniki pravi). Povezave se bodo seuvale. Ali je kdo kaj zasledil v zvezi tega na netu.

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 09:12
Napisal/-a T2_Delavec
Da! Sukani kabli, modemi naj bodo osamljeni. Baje pomaga že, če je list alu-folije dan pod modem. Skratka z vsemi prijemi se bomo bockali, če bo le pomagalo! :D

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 09:24
Napisal/-a madpanter
mozno da alu folija pomaga, sam sem zadnc za foro ovil cel kabel iz vticnice v modem v alu folijo pa se mi je modem 2 mb manj sinhroniziral :? bo treba kaj druzga probat da lovimo cim boljso sinhronizacijo, se bolje bi bilo tudi da bi na servisnih straneh videl sinhronizacijo :wink:

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 11:08
Napisal/-a Shrek
Jao, zdaj še modem v alu-folijo. Pomoje bolj pomaga nova instal. + kvaliteten zaščiten kabel.
To o servisnih straneh in sinhronizaciji ni slaba ideja. Dajmo T-2jevci, spišite ta software.

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 11:24
Napisal/-a T2_Delavec
Ne modema v alu folijo dajat, sdicer se bo pregrel! Garancija ne zajema takih "poduhvatov". :)

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 13:04
Napisal/-a madpanter
hehe ko da bojo vedeli da je bilo tako zavito, sem ga pa zaforo zavil za 10 minut in ni cisto nic pomagalo, se slabse je bilo, mislim pa da z tem pregledom prek interneta bi zadeli v polno in tudi manj klicel bi bilo na helpdesk da ne omenjam kakih grafov ki bi jih lahko meli, recmo da vidis kdaj ti linija pade, koliko prometa si mel ta mesec (up, down) in podobno. nimda probi predlagat kaj ce bos lahko

L.P.

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 13:09
Napisal/-a T2_Delavec
Ni problem v tem, problem je to sprogramirati. Odnosno ni problem sprogramirati, ampak je precej bolj pomembnih reči na vrsti prej! :)

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 13:20
Napisal/-a Dalmatinc
Sam veš kva je lepo pr t2....tud če je marsikej še kej u kurcu ... je to, da uporabniki, lahko devamo svoje predloge..in to, da je celo mogoče, da bodo kdaj uslišani....

Drgač je pa tema skrenula sa puta ;)

Nimda: pol leta pravš? .... kva je to napram večnosti :)

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 13:34
Napisal/-a T2_Delavec
Sej je v PROV (provisioning) že narejeno "tipanje" dslamov in bi lahko načeloma z web servisem že hodil gledat Servis.T-2.net za vsako prijavljeno stranko, na koliko se SYNCa modem. Ampak ni še spiljeno, včasih javi error, ne upošteva novih modemov. Skratka, dela in veselja bo s tem še kar nekaj.

Servisne imajo sedaj narejeno telefonijo in spremembo gesla. Ni še dodatnih storitev in dodatnih poštnih predalov. Tudi odseka za Televizijo še ni. Skratka, še en kup dela bo prej, pa verjetno sem še kej pozabu.

Vsekakor se bo pa vse naredilo - upajmo, da dokler smo še mladi! :)

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 14:38
Napisal/-a Skorc
Previdno z izjavami :) Na servisneh je samo sprememba gesla. Telefonija pa verjetno še ni v fazi "public".

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 14:47
Napisal/-a Forenzik
Nimda povej pot kako pridemo do pregleda telefonske porabe v primeru, da deluje.

Objavljeno: 6. Sep 2006 ob 17:12
Napisal/-a Quakke
Ko bo VDSL2 pršu sm bo tukaj že itak optika. Tako, da bo VDSL2 za bolj oddaljene kraje.

Objavljeno: 7. Sep 2006 ob 07:37
Napisal/-a madpanter
@Quakke al pa za une katerim ni omogoceno imet optike zaradi mongolidnih sosedov :cry: